Transcript: Day 1; Nnamdi Kanu vs Witness

Court Update: Mazi Nnamdi Kanu’s Testimony – May 28, 2025

Questions Nnamdi Kanu’s Lawyer, Kalu Agabi (SAN) asked FG’s Masked witness during Cross examination at the last court session on May 2, 2025
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Agabi: Did you take my clients statement with or without his lawyer?

Witness: His statement was taken without his lawyer

Agabi: from the video evidence, were you the person interrogating him?

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Witness; I was among
Agabi: Did you appear in the video?

Witness: No

Agabi; What was your assessment specifically?

Witness; To arrest Nnamdi Kanu and bring him to Abuja and interview him

Agabi; Apart from the defendant, did you obtain statements from others?

Witness Personally No

Agabi; At the time of arrest you withdrew from him all the items presented in court?

Witness: Yes

Agabi; Where those all his personal properties?

Witness: Yes

Agabi;Are there other items that haven’t been presented? Items considered offensive?

Witness: My lord the items might not be offensive but the action behind it

Agabi; No, answer me correctly.
Did you analyze the items?

Witness; My task wasn’t to analyze the items.

Agabi; So you didn’t analyze it?

Witness; I didn’t , except his phone.

Agabi; Is the phone analysis in evidence?

Witness; stutters…. no because it was considered immaterial

Agabi; Do you agree most of the items have lost their usefulness over 10yrs

Witness: yes

Agabi; in 10yrs since you first arrested him, have you seen anyone who claims he committed a crime?

Witness; i didn’t

Agabi; you said you found him with someone, did you fund anything incriminating on the person?

Witness; No

Agabi; did you confirm the person as a facilitator of terrorism?

Witness; No

Agabi; did you find any instrument of violence on my defendant?

Witness; none

Did you contact any of the persons the defendant named in his statement as working with him?

Witness; He didn’t name any body

Agabi; Is it only one statement that was obtained from him

Witness; In Lagos, yes but in Abuja other statements were obtained.

Agabi: part from the defendant, is there any other person standing in trial with him?

Witness; I don’t know

Agabi; I put it to you that in the entire nation, this defendant is the only person standing trial for the agitation of Biafra

Witness; I don’t have Information to that, all I know is I did the arrest in Lagos

Agabi; from your knowledge, the agitation does not have any other person apart from the defendant

Witness; certainly not correct

Agabi; so who are the rest?

Witness; from the news on social media I know Simon Ekpa

Agabi: So because of what you red from social media, you want my defendant to be sentenced to death.

Witness; I have said what I know, Simon Ekpa is working with him.

Agabi; is the Simon Ekpa standing trial with my defendant?

Witness; I know he was arrested

Agabi; but is he standing trial with my defendant?

Witness; I don’t know

Agabi; we are keeping counts of your I don’t know

Agabi; is the defendant charged with damaging properties of people or govt?

Witness; wat I know is he is charged with terrorism (goes ahead to define terrorism )

Agabi; but is he charged with damaging anyone’s property?

Witnessss; maybe not personal but remotely. He instructed people to destroy govt properties .

Agabi; do you know a single person who damaged any properties according to my defendants instruction .

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Witness; it’s not my duty to answer that question. Witness turns to the judge and asks if he can be limited to the questions he answers, the judge says no.

Agabi; did my defendant say the nation is suffering from corruption ?

Witness; i can’t remember

Agabi; he said the nation is suffering from corruption true or fales?

Witness; that question should be put to me

The judge to the witness ; you don’t dictate the questions that should be asked you, answer yes or no..

Agabi; do you remember my defendant said the country lacks infrastructures ?

Witness; i cant remember but he called the country a zoo

Agabi; can you remember if he apologized for the complimentary remarks he made about the president and igbo leaders

Witness i cant remember

Agabi; you won’t remember if he described ipob as a voluntary org?

Witness i cant remember

Agabi; Do you remember he said ipob doesn’t not engage in arms struggle

Witness; I cant remember

Agabi; you know there’s been killings in the country , in kaduna state?

Witness; yes

Agabi; the killings is it from agitation of separation of states?

Witness; no

Agabi; for many years there’s been killings in zamfara, is it as a result of agitation for separation?

Witness; no

Agabi;There’s been killing in Benue, is it a product of agitation for separation?

Witness; No

Agabi; there’s killings in Plateau states, is it as a result of agitation of separation?

Witness; no

Agabi; are our highways safe?

Witness; to some extent, they are safe.

Agabi; many villagers have lost their lives Nigerians killed in churches and mosques

Witness; I remember few of those instances

Agabi; are those killings product of agitation of separation?

Witness; No

Agabi; schools have been attacked and students unalived

Witness; yes

Agabi; are these killings have anything to do with agitation of separation?

Witness; no

Agabi; Do you say IPOB was proscribed?

Witness Yes

Agabi; Who were the parties to the action in which IPOB was proscribed?

Witness; the federal govt

Agabi; Do you know if the application was exparte?

Witness; No

Agabi; Since the proscription of IPOB, do you know any IPOB member that has been prosecuted?

Witness; No

Agabi: Do you know any IPOB member?

Witness; No but I have seen him during broadcast issuing directives to IPOB members

Agabi; Have you seen any IPOB member being prosecuted?

Witness; No

Agabi: Is it a crime to propagate ideologies?

Witness; No

Agabi; Which are the states to which IPOB message is directed to?

Witness: Majorly south east and south south states

Agabi; Name them

Witness; He names the south eastern states.

Agabi; These states have lawmakers, governors, etc being represented nationally

Witness Yes

Agabi; And they are constitutionally established

Witness Yes

Agabi These states have the security personnel and they receive federal allocation

Witness Yes

Agabi; Every Nigerian lives in all the states you mentioned

Witness Yes

Agabi; So does it mean the people of these states you mentioned don’t carry out their supposed leaders orders?

Witness There are people in that state who carry out his instructions

Agabi Do you have evidences ?

Witness No

Agabi ; Are you aware even the court apologized to my defendant for some of the wrongs done to him

Witness I wasn’t in court that day

Agabi; Are you aware the people of the south east are in the dss, air force, military, etc

Witness Im aware

Agabi; A former inspector general of the police and others are from the south east

Witness; Yes

Agabi: in line with all these offices mentioned, nobody from that region is guilty of the accusations you made against them.

Agabi; we have mentioned states where there’s unrest and the south east isn’t part of them.

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Witness; we have videos where miscreants commit atrocities and mention Nnamdi Kanu as their leader and he sent them to do it.

Agabi; do you have evidence to that?

Witness; personally, no but the service has

 

 

No weapons found with Nnamdi Kanu during 2015 arrest — DSS witness

A Department of State Services operative, who is testifying for the Federal Government in the trial of the leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, Nnamdi Kanu, on Friday, stated at the Federal High Court in Abuja that no weapon of terrorism or violence was recovered from him during his arrest in October 2015 in Lagos.

The witness, who is code-named PWAAA, however, proceeded to inform the trial court presided over by Justice James Omotosho that IPOB members pay allegiance to Kanu as their leader.

At the previous sitting, the witness, led in evidence by the Federal Government’s counsel Adegboyega Awomolo, SAN, told the court that he has been in service with the DSS for 18 years.

He also said he was assigned alongside other team members to arrest Kanu at the Golden Tulip Hotel in Lagos.

 

Among the witnesses’ evidence presented before the court was a video recording of Kanu’s interrogation by DSS officials, which played in the open court.

Kanu’s written statement made on October 15, 2015, at the DSS office was also read in the open court.

In the statement, Kanu admitted establishing Radio Biafra in London. He said the radio wasn’t registered in Nigeria because he knew he wouldn’t be issued a licence, and also because there was no need.

 

According to the statement, Kanu said he was interrogated by the DSS without his lawyer present, so he answered the questions asked him to the best of his ability.

The witness also stated that upon Kanu’s arrest, the items recovered from him were his personal property and radio equipment.

The DSS brought the items to court in four separate cases, which were displayed in the open court.

 

The suitcase contained the personal belongings of the defendant, especially the Biafra Radio equipment.

Items recovered from Kanu and admitted as exhibits includes, “1 Black laptop, 2 Multi mix transmitters, 1 Mini white Apple iPad with a pouch, 1 Grey Apple iPad with a pouch, 1 Grey MacBook with a pouch, 1 Grey MacBook with the case, 1 Mini drone sound wave speaker, 2 Mini white speakers, 1 large computer mouse, 1 White adaptor, 1 Laptop adaptor and1 Carton bag with laptop

Others are “2 3G modems, 2 Glo modems,1 Glo Hawaii modem, 1 MTN modem, 1 Etisalat modem, 1 Flash drive, 1 Camcorder, 1 Hand recorder in a black pouch, 1 MacBook Pro adaptor, 1 Mic stand, 1 Phillips headphone, 1 Radio Sharp mic with cord, 1 Pro sound mic with cord, 1 4G LTE modem, a bunch of cards, 1 Power adaptor for mixer, 1 Easy Blaze white modem, 1 Samsung phone,1 Black Motorola phone and1 Nokia phone, 1 Black Samsung phone, 1 Black phone, 1 D-Link black modem, 1 8GB flash drive, 1 Extension wire adaptor, 1 Pair of shoes, 1 Belt, 1 Pair of ciderwood sneakers, 1 Footwear, 1 Black Softech wristwatch, 2 Singlets, 1 Sealed Hermes perfume, 1 Trinket, 1 Pokham perfume, 1 Fredrick Peckham wristwatch, 1 Diesel wristwatch, 1 Alexander Christy collection wristwatch, 1 Club wristwatch and10 items altogether.

The rest are, “3 Bank MasterCards, Copies of documents, 1 Copy of IPOB complementary card, Documents tagged IPOB, 1 White clipper 1 Bottle of medicine, 1 Oman perfume, 2 Mini scented oils, 1 Empty black purse, 1 Nigerian passport bearing the names Okwu Kanu Nwannekaibeya Nnamdi Ngozichukwu and1 British passport bearing the name Okwu Kanu Nwannekaibeya, 1 Black purse, 1 Passport holder, 1 Card holder, 1 Box of Rocarden wristwatch and 4 Bundles of cords.

 

At the resumed trial on Friday, PWAAA, under cross-examination led by Kanu’s lead counsel, Kanu Agabi, SAN, told the court that there are other people working with Kanu in the secessionist agitation, naming Simon Ekpa.

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Agabi, however, asked the witness if there were other persons aside from the defendant being prosecuted over the agitation.

He admitted not knowing any person put on trial by the federal government on account of agitation from Biafran nation.

He, however, added, “I am aware that Simon Ekpa is arrested in a foreign country and the Nigerian government is in the process of extraditing him”.

 

Agabi again asked the witness if the defendant is charged with damaging any public property.

PWAAA responded, “What I know is that some of the charges relate to terrorism, which includes violence to achieve an aim or coerce the government”.

When the defence counsel asked if the defendant is being charged for violence, the witness said, “Not personally but remotely. I know there was a time the IPOB leader instructed people to attack government property,” the witness alleged.

 

He added that he doesn’t remember Kanu complaining of corruption in high places, unemployment among youths and tendering apologies.

PWAAA said Kanu has not shown remorse for the insulting remarks he made, “I don’t remember Kanu apologising for calling Nigeria a zoo,” he said.

 

The witness also said that he could not remember when Kanu described IPOB as a voluntary organisation that was not involved in carrying arms against the nation.

He admitted that there were killings in some parts of the country, especially in the North, but that the government has been doing its best to stem the tide of the killings.

The witness also said he would not know whether the killings were a result of self-determination agitation.

 

Speaking further, the witness told the court that although all the items recovered in the hotel room where Kanu was arrested were his personal property, which may not be perceived to be offensive ordinarily, the intention of the defendant may be.

PWAAA also told the court that he did not analyse any of the items because his mandate was to effect the arrest and obtain a statement from Kanu.

PWAAA, however, admitted to analysing the cell phone of Kanu, though the findings weren’t shared with the court.

 

The witness said that in the 10 years that the defendant’s items were impounded, they may have lost their value.

Speaking further, he admitted that Kanu’s statement was obtained without the presence of his lawyer.

 

The court adjourned to May 6, 7 and 8 for continuation of cross-examination as agreed by the parties in the suit.


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